Tue 20 Dec 2005
Naming my baby part 2 给宝贝起名之二
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OK. It’s been awhile since we wrote our first naming the baby post.
Since they, JY and I have done quite some research, trying to find the best way to name our baby. I told JY that I remember reading from somewhere that the name one gives to the baby has a long-lasting impact on the baby’s life.
I finally found out where that information was from, it’s from the excellent book Freakonomics : A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything. I will review the book very soon, so look for the review.
In the last section of the book named: Perfect Parenting, Part II; or: Would a Roshanda by Any Other Name Smell as Sweet? the author addressed the topics of how a person’s name affect how people perceive him/her. It was loosely based on profession Roland G. Fryer Jr.’s work on black and white difference on achievement. The research was based on the study of 40+ years of child birth certificate data from California. In it, the author used statistical method to find out all the best and worst (whether popular or not) names for boys and girls.
To shorten it, basically, we came up with a new set of names for you to judge. The difference between this time and last time, was JY and I spent quite some time pouring over the data in the Freakonomics book, and identified a set of desirable names based on the weighing of the attributes. We’re also now including the middle name as well. The second column uses the middle initial, and the third column listed the name without the middle-name.
Please leave your comments in the Comments section.
Lucienne Rachel Wang Lucienne R Wang Lucienne Wang
Sophie Clementine Wang Sophie C Wang Sophie Wang
Ella Lucienne Wang Ella L Wang Ella Wang
Lauren Alexandra Wang Lauren A Wang Lauren Wang
Lauren Atara Wang Lauren A Wang Lauren Wang
Hannah Clementine Wang Hannah C Wang Hannah Wang
Rachel Alexandra Wang Rachel A Wang Rachel Wang
Edit:
Since this post is garnering a lot of attention, here is our baby name research methodology.
- The initial set of names are from “most popular names in 2015″ section of the book mainly.
- We then looked at the origin of the name, the meaning as well as the “Mother Year of Education” from the book. Here is the resulting matrix:
Name
Origin
Meaning
Mother Year of Education
Alexandra
Greek
protector of mankind
14.67
Atara
Hebrew
A crown
16.00
Ava
German
A bird
14.97
Aviva
Hebrew
Springtime
16.18
Clementine
Latin
Merciful
16.23
Ella
Old English, old German
Beautiful fairy
woman, all
15.30
Emma
Old German
Universal, all embracing
15.23
Hannah
Hebrew
grace of God
14.44
Lauren
Latin
laurel leaves, honour, fame, spirit
14.58
Lucienne
Latin
Light
16.60
Maeve
Greek, Latin
Goddess, a purple flower
N/A
Rachel
Hebrew
little lamb, an ewe, one with purity
14.51
Sophie
Greek
Wisdom
15.45
- We then put the first name, middle name, and the last name together, and judged them on the sound of the name, the initials, and the anagrams. We also want the origin and the meanings of the first and middle names to be in harmony
- Finally, we went through a google search on the final candidates (first and middle names) making sure there is no one with that name that is of notoriety.
What do you guys think?
大家可以帮我们孩子选个好名字吗?
24 Responses to “ Naming my baby part 2 给宝贝起名之二 ”
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December 21st, 2005 at 7:43 am
be careful for the acronym that results. Mine is WAD.
My wife is Rachel, her sister is Lauren, so I like those. However, RAW is not so great, LAW is good.
We would have named our 8 month old daugher Ella but with our last name it would have caused her some pain, we think. In your case I think Ella is beautiful. Lauren is cool, except for the fact that some pronounce the Lau like an o, some like an a.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:00 am
Why not family names? The Scotch-Irish tradition gives children the names of their ancestors; thus I have my grandfather’s name and my daughter has her great-grandmother’s name. The result is that we both have unusual names for our generations.
Choosing from your list, Hannah Clementine. Don’t like any of the Lauren names; it isn’t even Ralph Lauren’s real name.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:38 am
Sorry to say, but it doesn’t matter one iota what you name your baby!!! Good luck!!!
December 21st, 2005 at 8:57 am
I’d go with Lauren Alexandra – nice rythms to the names, neither is too old fashioned, but still sound classic, and both work with the short last name.
December 21st, 2005 at 9:43 am
Do you pronounce Wang “Wang” or “Wong”?
December 21st, 2005 at 11:00 am
In order of preference:
1. Ella Lucienne
2. Lauren Alexandra
3. Rachel Alexandra
December 21st, 2005 at 11:18 am
Note that a couple of your choices have interesting initials: LAW and RAW. She might like that. Or not. My initials are CSA, which stands (among other things) for Confederate States of America, which I always thought was actually kind of cool, in a weird way. I don’t think I would’ve liked RAW, though.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:42 am
Rachel Alexandra is by far the best!
December 21st, 2005 at 1:21 pm
Thank you all for responding! Wow, so much to think about.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:52 pm
Chris, it’s pronounced “Wong”.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:53 pm
I imagine you’ll get flooded with replies now, since the authors linked you!
My favorite is Lauren Alexandra.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:31 pm
I would suggest a slight variation: Laura.
From the behindthename.com website:
Feminine form of the Late Latin name Laurus, which meant “laurel”. In ancient Rome the leaves of laurel trees were used to create victors’ garlands. Saint Laura was a 9th-century Spanish martyr, a nun who was thrown into a vat of molten lead by the Moors. Another famous bearer was Laura Secord, a Canadian heroine during the War of 1812.
I think having a cool sounding name makes a difference on how you face life.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:28 pm
Are you giving her a chinese name?
If you are there’ll be a lot of more factors to consider. (Esp taking her name from that chinese almanac of names!)
In the east it’ll be *english name* *surname* *chinese name*
In the west it’ll be *english name* *chinese name* *surname*
Somehow always found that irritating how western bureaucracy can’t get their heads around that.
December 22nd, 2005 at 5:31 pm
Eliane: good question. I will have a chinese name for my baby as well, but it probably won’t be part of her official English name. Thank you for reminding me though we need to start to think about our baby’s Chinese name as well.
December 23rd, 2005 at 10:44 am
Atara is a cool name, especially with Lauren or Hannah. She can choose whichever level or unique she wants as she ages.
It’s hard to strike a balance between a distinctive and a popular name. No one wants to be in the situation with a too popular name Jennifer, no, not Jennifer L, not Jennifer P, Jennifer W. I mean.
I vote against RAW too. Partly the short form, partly the beat ‘ ” / ‘ ‘ ” ‘ / ” isn’t as pleasing.
Is there any issue with anyone in the family who might pronounce any of the name “in a Chinese way” so that it would be unrecognizable to English ears? For example how Mary is pronounced as Moai Lee? Ignorant people chortle over how family can’t even pronounce their loved one’s name. Might be a consideration.
Lao Ren (person of the pen potentially?) or (respective title, person) would be a nice Chinese counterpart name for Lauren. I guess completely different Chinese and English name is a good route too.
Alexandra, Hannah, Sophie and Ella are timeless and don’t connotate to me any particular personality bias that might mismatch with a child. Rachel and Clementine strike me as girlier names while Lucienne and Lauren are nicely androgenous. I suppose that engenders a whole other aspect of debate.
December 23rd, 2005 at 1:43 pm
Pearl:
thank you very much for your comments, you obviously put a lot of thoughts into it. I thought I’d keep the Chinese name and English name phonically distinctive because trying to come up with names that work in both English and Chinese has been very difficult for us.
I think your comment on RAW is right on, I will probably take it off the list.
Thanks again.
December 26th, 2005 at 6:41 pm
It appears that Steven Levitt himself has picked up on this…
http://www.freakonomics.com/blog/2005/12/21/name-that-baby/#comments
Lucienne Aviva does sound like an awfully nice name, and may give the girl a subconscious cue to study jurisprudence, but I would prefer Sophie Aviva.
December 27th, 2005 at 12:07 pm
Suggestion: Emma Sophia….
universal wisdom???
January 8th, 2006 at 1:07 am
Another classic example on Asian parents being absurd overachievers.. wow, can’t wait for you to start pressuring your kid to go to HARVARD when she’s 4.
January 8th, 2006 at 7:50 am
Oh look, more racists, because only Asian parents can be overachievers; there’s not entire suburbs full of yuppies of all races who put their child on the waiting list for the fancy preschool before they’re even born.
As for the name, to continue Pearl’s idea, you would also want to avoid any situation where her English name could mean something weird and/or mean in Chinese… “Hannah”, for example, could be 蛤那 — probably don’t want your child to be names “seize the frog”… while you can get around that partway using a Chinese name, remember that she’ll have the English name on all her documents, birth certificate, passport, etc.
April 7th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
I am partial to Lauren Alexandra Wang, my daughter’s name. She was born in 1985, our first child, and of course we knew of no other “Laurens” at that time. We liked the rhythmic sound and her first name was decided when I saw the name written in gold on the red glass Ralph Lauren perfume bottle. It looked so beautiful. The name Taylor was set aside for our second child (girl or boy… he was a son).
She is studying to be a Fashion Designer…is that a coincidence with Ralph Lauren!
April 13th, 2006 at 10:18 am
Lise: actually, that’s the exact name we gave our daughter, thank you for sharing.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:32 am
I pretty much googled myself and this came up, so I like the name Rachel